N570 vs retumbo Narrowed it down to Retumbo and us 869. bbhank; Feb 4, 2024; Reloading Depot Replies 5 Views 350. This is towards the top of pressure for this barrel. They also have RL33 and IMR 8133. Camilleri Well-Known Member. Barehandlineman11 Well-Known Member. 65WSM Well-Known Member. 5 - 3047 3090 I have got my hands on some H1000 and some retumbo. New posts I load for five different . So throat erosion is more with N570. 0 - 3,267 96. Looking forward to trying out N570 and information is hard to come by. of 570, 8 lbs. 92 N570 N565 H1000 Retumbo First three are almost interchangeable, for me. 0713 so these extruded powders take up more volume per grain of powder than the spherical ball powders. I was able to snag 6 pounds of N570 locally. Joined Nov 20, 2021 Messages 1,612. browning442 Well-Known Member. GREAT STUFF! Reactions: jskmtd and Diverjeff. Nov 8, N170 slow burning rifle powder Vihtavuori N170 is the slowest burning rifle powder in the N100 series (not taking 20N29 and 24N41 into account) and in fact one of the slowest canister-grade powders readily available from any manufacturer on the market. elkaholic Well-Known Member Western Powder's web site says LRT is similar to Retumbo, and they say Retumbo is similar to H870. 5-284 which is a very similar case capacity. gillettehunter. Any preferences between the two? Why? Any recipies to share? Thanks! Hey there all, I’m a hunter and getting into some longer range shooting. Retumbo, or IMR 8133 . 9 74. Mar 17, 2022 #9 35WhelenAI WKR. Like to try it in a 300 rum with 230 bergers soon. Dec 22, 2021 #12 I’ve never gotten to try RL26 because it’s impossible to find but n570 gives me more velocity than retumbo and h1000 . 3gr COAL - 3. Members. My speed is around 2990 avg with 25" barrel. I have a load for my 338 using the 285gr eldm its going near 2850 fps with rl25. Joined Dec 16, 2013 Messages 5,030 Location RL33, N570, Retumbo, and IMR8133 will all get you over 3000fps. JJMoody. 1; 2; I know this post is a little dead, but I'm interested in the 8133 Vs n570. 740” 2915 FPS average 78. I haven’t used either - what are the pros and cons of one vs the other (besides the obvious high cost Got my rifle all built up and want to do a little barrel break in and load development. I use Retumbo with 153 A-Tips in my 6. For those who do have and have used how do they compare Retumbo is exceptionally accurate and a great powder for this caliber when using the 140 VLDs. JJMoody Well-Known Member. Our 338LMAI was scheduled for 2023, but we may build earlier. Jul 5, 2022 #12 B. Feb 24, 2021 After some searching and deduction, I'm thinking slower than Retumbo. I am not looking for cash, just an even 1 for 1 exchange and in person too. T. Lapua Brass, CCI 250 primers. Our load for that match was 68 grains at 2,930 FPS with My 300 PRC+P, 30 Sherman mag+P and 30-338 Lapua Imp are using N570, I wouldn't think N568 wouldn't come close in those. Aug 28, 2018 #9 waveslayer Active member. 55. motrapper Well-Known Member. elkaholic Well-Known Member. Joined Jul 14, 2021 Messages 62 Location Montana. I got 2950 with h4831sc, it's the gold standard powder for the 6. I switched to it in my 300 RUM. kinda like the 180 hybrid vs 195 . 0 - 3,317 24N41 96. Nosler brass, however, is notorious for having soft heads, and will show ejector marks early. Only bullets I got are 220 ELD-X Can’t find any load data for this, could use a starting point. I'm stopping because I'm now shooting 390s and they like RL50 - but I'm also going back to Retumbo for the 350s because: harder than heck to get - no news N570 tops out at 75. Joined Jan 10, 2015 Messages 127 Reaction score 11 Points 18. wapitibob said: not my load Retumbo (have) 2736 fps 104. BB401 Active Member. Joined Jun 29, 2016 Messages 149 Reaction score 113 Points 43. Some customers dont N series powders, only have a certain kind at home for later, or some rifles are finicky wenches and like weird stuff. Out of the same identical loads with retumbo and N570 Running 80g of N570 with 195 Bergers but I only have a few pounds of N570 left and based on the length of my last backorder I am saving it. I live in the Colorado Springs area and I am willing Not velocity/group size? I ask because Berger data was 2769 FPS/87. Between H- 4350, 4831, 1000 and Retumbo I can normally find a great load for most of the cartridges I shoot. I've found that it's a great replacement for Retumbo and almost always gives better performance. com/ultimatereloaderIf you're loading magnum H1000, retumbo, N570, rl 26, magnum powders. It just seems that a lot of 48 vihtavuori n350 106 imr 4064 164 hodgdon retumbo 49 vihtavuori 3n38 107 norma 202 165 winchester staball hd 50 winchester 572 108 accurate 4064 166 imr 8133 53 alliant pro reach 111 norma 203b 169 vihtavuori n570 54 hodgdon longshot 112 vihtavuori n140 170 alliant reloder 33 I have two unopened jugs of N570 that I am looking to trade for Retumbo. Thread starter motrapper; Start date Feb 15, 2022; Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member. Same for RL33 which would also be sensitive to temps. CA ridgeline, 26” barrel, lapua brass. Interested in your findings. I’m running 7977 in my sons 6. N570 is one of the hottest burning magnum powders and will erode the throat 30-40% faster than Retumbo or H1000, speed comes at a price. Hoping to get close to 3,000 fps +-. Reactions: 338 dude. N570, only ladder test—60. Seems as if the N570 is dirty though compared to H1000 and Retumbo. DENWA. The kernels are too LARGE. had an es Forums. Info on the 245s has been a bit scarce from PRC shooters thus far. Joined I have a lot of Retumbo powder for my 375 Chey Tac and am about to start load development on a 338 LM Savage I just picked up with a 1:9 twist. Anyone have a good starting point for the powder/bullet combo? Just need something safe to shoot. My opinion is that N570 is the best powder for 200+ grain 300 win mag and other 30 magnums. It appears to me more like n570 only you can put more in the case . @SOIHUNT I will be working in Tucson 7/16 casa grande 7/17 then where traveling our equipment. Thanks for the N570 load data Huntnful! We have very similar rifles. 0g of N560 at 2800 fps at 0. This weekend I found Retumbo to be more temperature sensitive than advertised (we were shooting a match in relative humid conditions with temps around 34'C / 93'F). I run N570 & 180s in my stw. N570 for Retumbo. Hornady also has data, and RL25 looks fastest, followed by N560, RL26, & H1000. IDhunter0990 RS Magnum or ACC Magpro might replace RL 26 or Retumbo RS LRT or ACC 8700 might replace N570 ETC. A 156 at 3000 would be terrific. I also have some N570 was about 100-120fps faster at the same pressure and produced the best groups at max charge but the es wasnt the best and groups were . 190 ! Near Maximum ! Slower powders like 7828, H1K, RL26, and even Retumbo work well for speed also but I seem to get better ladders, accuracy, and speed consistency with the mid burn rates. Plenty of load data between my 3 apps to safely work up. Joined Nov 25, 2018 Messages 126 Location New Mexico. 030” OL 2. 0 grains N570 COAL 3. 5saum attached and DO NOT use loads suggested by Berger. Currently testing 180VLD, also picked up a few boxes of 180 ELD-M. Oct 7, 2012 #1 Oct 7, 2012 Pressure Test Retumbo Vs N570 . With a 215 using ADG/N570 I am only getting to about 2998 FPS out of a 27" barrel. 3 n570 coal 3. From what I found also on web it is extreme stable. In the future I would like to use 300 Norma or 300 WIn mag in the gain twist (15"-9") and 230 A-tip. Below pressure. Hours of internet reading later, I have discovered they don’t make powder. R. No input on dirty burning or not. Now the N565 is also a good choice. Retumbo and H1000 were selected as the powder for follow up testing. He's got half a dozen 28Nos and they're all tack drivers. Vol1975; Jan 12, 2020; 3 4 5. Squares are about 1" 3. Dec 29, 2021 #3 sam Active member. Latest: Vihtavuori is introducing a new double-base powder for magnum and large-size cartridges. The bullet mass is going to have a direct impact on the recoil. Have heard that N570 is a great powder for 28 Nosler and similar cartridgesI want to get off of Retumbo for my 28N and onto something elseI get pressure at anything much above 3000 fps. N570 was faster but groups weren’t as consistent. After 6 months of ordering parts/assembling I finally got my brand new Bergara 300PRC out to the range this past weekend. My findings were that it was very comparable to N570 with temp stability Better extreme temp protection than N570. This should get you close. Did find some Viht N565 and it's inbound, but I'm I really like N570 in my 6. Along with Retumbo and Reloder 26, we will leave the N570 load development for a future day when we have abundant supplies. 9 65000 16077 1. deadwolf WKR. As mentioned, it’s a single-base powder. It makes a truly They are grain for grain equivalent for pressure/velocity. Feb 1, 2021 #12 Desert Dan Well-known member. Personally. I would like to see how n570 would do in the 7mm RM but I'm saving it for a 300 Norma that I should have finished in a couple weeks. I did notice accelerated throat erosion with the N570 though. ly/2UEAkgWUR on Patreon: https://www. V. Retumbo in contrast has a VMD of . 0 - 3,194 the N570 loads started to show some slight flattening, but N570 is a high energy powder and is said to be harder on barrels. Mar 8, 2022 #2 Probably have better luck in the reloading section of the classifieds. Wish I could find some N570 And to the original poster= have you considered H4831SC ? It's one of my favorites for similar cartridges 4 lbs retumbo $230 No Shipping Terrebonne Oregon 97760. There is also Retumbo that is a little slower yet and it's used in the bigger magnum calibers. 9 66. Feel free to copy the format below and add your info (to help keep it simple and organized). Thread starter tooth doc; Start date Mar 9, 2022; Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member. I try and maintain 2950-3000fps with the 143eldx. I just bought 32 lbs of H1000 the same week N570 came Get access to live stream, lessons, the post exchange, and chat with other snipers. I remember 15 years or so ago, alot of folks didn't like it for some reason. Any help will be gladly appreciated Thanks Matt N570 has been available fairly often if you watch the distributors like a hawk. N570 really shines in the ES/SD area. DoubleGobble00 said: I did not get to shoot any of the Retumbo, H1000, or N565 loads because I had a case head separation on the last N560 round that measured 2945 fps with 86. BleedingCoffee FNG. Joined May 12, 2013 Switch powder to N565, Retumbo, Ramshot magnum, StaBallHD or any of the slower burning powders. 5 grs with Decided to push the n570 some more and also give 24n41 a try. retumbo for n570. Reactions: HawkinsPrecision, JAYgs8163, tim2446 and 1 other person. Was hoping for a little more velocity but it shoots so well that i won’t complain. David Emerson. Your PRC should be about there with +p. 338 LAPUA Magnum. Reactions: Countrykang8, KH_Outdoors, lancetkenyon and 2 others. 6gr Vihtavuori N570: 3240FPS/17. 64 col 2. Joined Mar 2, 2011 Messages 1,329 Location Montana. Mar 24, 2023 #4 W. It’s a 26” length barrel, 1 in 9” twist. 5 vs 7 vs 30. 5 creedmoor or . ly/3JMw0CwUR T-Shirts: https://bit. TXAoudadKlr Well-Known Member. I have heard of good results with n570, Retumbo and RL26. This should be good for large hunting cartridges, such as the . Joined Apr 13, 2015 Messages 115. From what I am seeing, the N570 is being in a lot of the Magnums. It usually tells me to go fish! Ba is only part of the answer for will it work. Stopped buying it because (1) I hate it's smell on each shot, (2) it cost an arm and a leg compared to Retumbo (which I did not get to shoot as well), and (3) I started seeing unburned kernels in my cases on ejection -- a WTH moment. Post your results and we will help you out. Retumbo and N570. 300 Winchester Magnum, and bigger cartridges used for ELR competition, such as the . tooth doc Well-Known Member. Joined Jan 10, 2013 I agree with the post above. Lonewolf74; Nov 29, 2017; Replies 11 Views 11K. Joined May 15, 2020 Messages 6. Mar 9, 2018 #12 I'd really like to see what the new Enduron 8133 will do with this cartridge. Thread starter Barehandlineman11; Start date Oct 8, 2019; Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member. 8gr N570. 3 4. ADG is much better, Peterson is good too, but I prefer ADG. Reactions: mtmuley. Anyone have data that they have gotten that fps with these powders? I'm at 600 ft elevation I'm looking for the 3 ghosts, H1000 Retumbo or N570. 0 grains of n570 to check for velocity consistency. 0 grs Retumbo, Remington brass, Fed 215M, and . com Out of curiosity though I did some modeling in Quickload. Was after the N565 and N570 load data for 180 though 215 bullet weight. 5gr of N565 with 212gr bullets, and 92. Reactions: Ironworker. 63 to 1. curtiscd Well-Known Member. 676 CBTO 3. 5 Tetumbo powder. I settled at 82. Initial testing for the 250-grain bullet showed Retumbo providing initial group of 1 moa while H1000 provided 1 moa over 2. 0ish, but make sure you stop when you hit pressure. N565 is similar to H1000 and is better for shorter barrels (< 26") and lighter bullets. 0 - 3030 X 80. Joined IMR 8133 vs N570. Joined Feb 27, 2020 Messages 15 Location Kansas City. with this combo? I got h1000 but like 1/2 pound so for the time being its basically out. IMR 8133. I would like to hear about specific experiences and load testing with Retumbo in this caliber and if there was a IMR Enduron 7977 or 8133. that 180 @ So I will update todays tests with the 195 Berger EOL's and Retumbo powder and N570 temp-50 degrees 24% humidity Altitude- 6000' 28 Nosler 1:9 twist 24" barrel Bertram Brass/Fed215 MG Primers/ Berger 195 EOL All results with LABRADAR Retumbo N570 80. That being said I’m having pretty good results with the N570. I’m guessing either H-1000 or Retumbo will be the top contenders for powder but I also have IMR-7828, Magnum, and N565. In one pounders() They would only let me get two pounds of each per day. 350 ! Retumbo and n570. Oct 8, 2019 #1 As title says. I would start at 79. did a quick 5 shot test group with 96. Joined Sep 19, 2016 Messages 30 Location East Texas. I have N565 and Retumbo, anyone got pointers, experience etc. The H1000 may ultimately have a longer barrel life, but it doesn’t offer the velocity that you are getting with N570. Want to give it a try in the 264 win mag Search. 0721. The rifle is a premier H1000 vs RL 26. of H1000 and way too much R23 along with a bit of Retumbo and R26. I just got 2 lbs of N-570 from Powder Valley and all I can say is this is the worst handling powder I've ever dealt with. Hornady brass cci 200s In my custom Ruger 25-06, it is the fastest powder and very accurate, the only other powder that betters it is Retumbo, difference being about 1/32" in group size to the Retumbo load in my Sendero 25-06. Rem81 Well-Known Member. Learn how six different powders work in Hornady's new 7 PRC. 5 Retumbo. This was a compressed load, 104%. Joined Sep 6, 2018 Messages 2,030 Location Texas. Thread starter Collin_Blank; Start date Nov 8, 2024; Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member. Joined Nov 27, 2018 Messages 778 I chose N565 over N570 due to my 22" barrel length. And they said for the 28 nosler and the 7mm rem mag N570 was the better and faster bullet. just got 4 cases of Retumbo. Due to the large kernel size (similar to 24N41 and 20N29), we recommend you to I just loaded N568 behind a Sierra Game King 175-grain 7mm bullet in a 7mm Rem Mag with a 26" barrel. I'll just try those in the 300 PRC. May 6, 2024 #9 TxLite I moved on. 230 Berger over N570 @ 2917fps in a 24” barrel. Retumbo is cooler burning too. Both RL 26 and N570 did not perform well for this bullet. Powders include H1000, N565, H4831SC, RL23, and Retumbo. 315", right at 3,000 fps (30 deg. wapitibob WKR. RifleShooter readers will be most interested in centerfire rifle propellants, which include the N120 to N170 line—a single-base gunpowder known for outstanding precision—and the N520 to N570 line, a double-based propellant engineered to produce maximum velocities. N570 is better for longer barrels and heavier bullets. but thats why I bought 2 rifles. Really appreciate the feedback. Joined Jun 1, 2004 Messages 925 Location Worland, Wyoming. 5 prc. Below was today test load of N570 82 gr . I'm saving the N570 for monolithic's. Replies 65 Views 20K. Not ideal for my . Thread starter IDhunter0990; Start date Oct 19, 2021; Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member. May 15, 2020 #5 powerspc FNG. I've got N570 and could push them faster, but there seems to be a point of diminishing returns with ELD's, push them too fast and the on-game performance may suffer. Living in AZ I finally settled of working with the Hodgdon extreme powders when possible even though I had some great loads with other powders. As with all of our rifle powders, N170 grains are of the cylindrical, single-perforated extruded type. First things first I used Lapua Brass FL sized, Winchester LRM primer (the only ones I could find), and 250gr SMKs. What do you like about N570 vs LRT that you'd stay with N570? Slightly more velocity? Last edited: Oct 21, 2021. This year I'm going to try Retumbo. 8133 is darn near the same burn rate as N570. Defensive Edge. 6gr of N570 for 220gr bullets. I want to make full use of the barrel switching / caliber switching capabilities of the rifle system, and get a new barrel in the largest possibly 300 cal magnum cartridge After going back to the drawing board, retumbo produced a 1/4moa load at 2789fps that has been confirmed out to 1670 yards in drops using only 89 grains of retumbo, cci250 primers, and nosler brass. 20N29 was the most accurate but couldn't get more than about If you want a temp stable powder in the same slow magnum burn rate, H1000 and Retumbo are what's available. Both had good shot placement and good lethal results and performance. 27" barrel. Menu. I haven't given any VV powders much thought after a friend reported terrible fire cracking in his rifle from N570. Been trying for the past couple of months to score some H1000 (son's coming home on leave from the AF in a couple weeks, and needs an ELR fix) but I've been too slow on the draw despite Discord and checking every damn site several times a day. Am currently working on a load for another 300 RUM now. 120" FB. snowcreekkennels Well-Known Member. Oct 27, 2019 #15 May look at IMR 7828 SSC as a sub. Forums. 71 Primer - Federal GM215M Brass - ADG on its 3rd firing Velocity - 3035fps Barrel Length - 26” Proof Sendero Freebore - Not sure. Dec 24, 2018. 338 Lapua Magnum. I am a died in the wool . Since H-1000 and Retumbo are almost unobtainable and we are hoping that they will come back into the market soon. I have a some RL26, RL33 and a couple pounds of Retumbo to experiment with. I wondered where the make their powder. A couple of years ago the N570 was also not available here in Europe for app 2 years. Search titles and first posts only. 82 3212 98. The H1000 is slower burning and better suited for the magnums such as the 28 nosler and 300 norma. Apr 1, 2016 #12 KYpatriot said: 300PRC- Berger 245 EOL with N570. Has anyone tried N560 or Retumbo with the 156 Berger as I have both of these powders. I was not able to find data on this combo, but worked up loads to N570 and 215 Hybrids were the winning combo in my 300 PRC. Has good temp stability up into the low 90 range. SOLD - Reloder 26 (RL26) 5x 1 pound bottles all same lot If you want more speed than use N570 with the 230's and you will see about 3000-3040. H4831sc also shot 0. In a nutshell Any slow burner that he can find, lol. Mar 17, 2022 #17 Surprisingly, QL estimates N570 as only being about 50fps faster than Retumbo. Joined Mar 10, 2021 Messages 5,864 Comparing 6. Not those Tic-Tacs of N570! I was running Retumbo I tried 869, RL33, LRT, 20N29 and Retumbo but just couldn't get velocity and accuracy I was looking for. I used H1000 and Retumbo in years past, Retumbo gave the speed and H1000 gave the single digit es and tiny vertical. It’s a very full case but no signs of overpressure. May 15, 2020 N570 is a popular powder but is temp sensitive from what i've heard. Your bullet choice needs a slower burning powder to maximize performance. I'll be using a 27" 9 twist 5R barrel. tmmcampbell; Dec 24, 2018; Replies 6 Views 5K. Jan 29, 2020. I recently found an 8 lbs jug of Retumbo and I figured if it worked out I would have enough to finish this barrel off with one load since I haven't found N570 in a while. I am about to start load development with the 300 prc running 199 gr hammer hunters with retumbo powder and cci 250 lrm primers and adg brass. 9 gr N570. #5 TxLite WKR. I know this is an old post, but I just started reloading 6. Joined Sep 6, 2018 Messages 2,024 Location Texas. I would like to know if anyone has used H1000 or retumbo to load these 300gr atips. 0 - 3,156 100. 020" off the lands. I have run the numbers with Quickload for my 6. IMR 8133 is advertised as being temp stable, but that appears to be more marketing than fact. Which of the above is the least temp N570 is the slowest of our high-energy powders and is an extruded, tubular powder type with grain dimensions of 2,3 mm length and 1,3 mm diameter. N568 excels with heavy-for-caliber projectiles and provides 67. The higher the number, the hotter the powder burns and the harder it is on the throat. Though after reading up on it,it says N170 is great for use in Have to call company. It is great powder and more available than Retumbo and some others. Joined May 2, 2004 Messages 2,222 Location Alaska. 5 gr 3182fps (very compressed). I'm pushing 215 Bergers at 3240 fps. iplan on shooting 230 berger's or 200 cutting edge solids out of a 300 rum till I shoot it out, then rechamber to 338 edge. Reply. Both for accuracy, ES spread and speed. Testing included varying the seating depth and powder charges. N568 and N570 were the most sensitive varying 1. My numerical burn rate chart shows this below. Is an ideal choice also for such cartridges as the 7mm REM MAG, . No N570 or RL26. I've built a couple of the 7 prc's now and have reached 3000 fps with 180gr Berger's with both N565 and Retumbo in 24" barrels. 6 64500 17653 1. You must log For the 500 series powders I have, but haven't used any yet are 550, 555, 560, 565, 568 and 570. That bullet is a killer. Joined Oct 14, 2007 Messages 621 Location Sandy Utah. F ambient temp) muzzle velocity (measured, about 25 fps less than what QuickLoad predicted). Both grouped about half MOA I'm interested in Best Results so far has been H1K as the Retumbo did not net the speed or accuracy of H1K. Go. I bet my local place can get 570, and I know they have 8133. BrentM Well-Known Member. Reactions: DDWing and PAGSDIII701. This testing was for speed and not for accuracy I was going for the 3000fps with the 250. Thread starter HANGum HIGH; Start date Mar 13, 2022; Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member. It lists H1000 close to Retumbo. It's 100 fps faster than H1000, 75 more than Retumbo, and 50 more than 8133. After a few months of shooting the course he switched back to his retumbo Load at around 3000fps. this is why I bring the question up* Retumbo vs H1000. In all that and all that Ive done I was just saying 560 was a walk off as far as consistently giving accuraccy and the upper end of speed. 3 grains at 2707 fps. If the throat is kept polished and shot strings I have an 8lb jug of N570 and was curious if anyone has experience using this with some 180 class Berger’s in the 7prc. N565 was developed specifically for military sniping applications and 250 grain bullet weight loads for the . Nov 12, 2020 #10 bdyal1972 said: 270WSM and Retumbo. 5 SAUM Hbn coated 156 EOL load is using 61. I can't believe they are still putting out that dangerous load data. Joined Oct 10, 2016 Messages 165. I have a decent stockpile, but always looking for new load data. Thats really the advantage of the Hodgdon Extremes. Bought a fierce fury in 28 nosler came with a 26 inch barrel wondering if anyone has cut one down before or how the cartridge performs with say a 20 or 22 inch, just try to shorten the rifle a bit for on the pack in the thick brush Good luck finding N570, I've been watching every site I can find and local stores for months with no luck. 39 3045 99. Search titles only By: Usually if you have a H1000 load, Retumbo is another grain. ŠczYçæùD«mÜ‘498Ñjµ‰¦Lv«ˆïÅ µa0$_x-×x^`š¤ÓspU&ðK[ b Hype was that N568 was a short cut N570 but from everything I'm seeing and reading, N570 produces higher velocities. You can’t always have your cake and eat it Any input on N570 vs RL33? I just put a 30” 300 RUM together, but taking it back apart to make the throat even shorter so I can get ON the lands if need be fed from a Wyatt’s detachable magazine. Its a slower burn rate powder than Retumbo. Great speeds with 180s in 7 stw. I would drop down a bit with H1000. Then it goes weird. Click to expand What did Quickload tell you for those examples. Joined Feb 24, 2012 Messages 5,997 I have n570 and 568 to try once my barrel appears . I tried HD Staball, N560, H4831sc, and Retumbo. Was awesome in other barrel. N570 ate my edge barrel at just over 300 rounds, my gunsmith (also a barrel and action maker) confirmed with his experience that N570 is hard on barrels. hawkinsprecision. 5gr retumbo 2,940 FPS ADG Brass Winchester Large Rifle Magnum Primer 3. His velocitys were swinging with the temp changes from morning to afternoon throwing off his dope and he got tired of trying to adjust for it so he just stuck with retumbo. Got a 300 Norma Mag rifle, H1000, RL26, N570 and Retumbo to work with. Recent Posts. Mar 20, 2020 #9 according to vihts load data you might be a little on the slow side for the 208 pills, n560/n565 might be worth a short if the n570 doesn’t work out for Reloader 26 Reloader 25 H1000 Retumbo Ramshot Magnum N570 Looking at reaching 2800 FPS in my 26" . Minuteman. Feb 29, 2020 #8 AveryMoonshine Active member. Joined Mar 7, 2013 Messages 124 Location Colleyville, TX. Joined I know not much difference between 350 vs 400 but there is a felt recoil difference regardless. I picked up some 300gr atip. 100" off lands (don't have book in front of me). Much appreciated- Aug 22, 2021 #2 lennywd87 Lil-Rokslider. Reloading Equipment WTT N570. Retumbo works, but is slow in velocity. CoolBreeze777; Dec 20, 2023; Buy - Sell - Trade Replies 0 Views 168. Joined I'm just curious whether anyone can say if 570 might be a closer match to R33 for velocities than what Retumbo typically is, for example. Reactions: JTH, muleystalker, parshal and 1 other person. Now I build rifles based on if H1000 will work. my 300 prc Ruger precision and started loading some 180 Berger elite I had for my 308 load. LRH Supporter. I get great accuracy with it. Magpro performance VS Retumbo H1000 RL26. 28 Nosler Custom HCA carbon killer 26" hca 1/8" twist Peterson Brass 195 berger EOL 78. 743" ( 0. VV N570 is however sufficiently progressive burning that it produces near top velocities in many applications. Makes sense. 59g showed slight ejector marks. I get great velocities with it out of my Sherman and also out of a 22-284. 5PRC and N570 I'm thinking retumbo would create a little more speed than H1000 but I don't have any. I have both N570 and 5lbs of Retumbo right now, want to know which powder works in peoples experience so I can focus my efforts on acquiring more for the . Wanting to shoot either Berger 175 EH’s or 180 VLD-H out of it. I'm heavily dependant on retumbo. 75 to 1 moa. Joined Apr 27, 2017 Messages 447 Reaction score 273 Points 63 I have found that N570 is on par with retumbo as far as load data. H-1000 is . Jan 21, 2024; Thread Starter #3 OP . Looking to buy . Sand Man Well-Known Member. Ladd did a 7mm rem mag properly throated for the 195EOL and was getting over 3075mv N565, 26in barrel a couple years ago. Found best accuracy with 76. Aug 8, 2017 #21 coyotezapper said: Heat of Explosion numbers for like powders. Short Case I shoot . Attachments. Was going to start with 78 and go up in . Retumbo wasn't as good as the first two. I get a little better than that at 2845 FPS with N570, but that is a RUM. Mar 2, 2023 #2 NV HUNTER WKR. I will continue to use it especially for hunting purposes. I seat my bullets long, so I am able to run more powder than most 338 Lapua's. Your real world results may vary from that though. The kernels are like broken #2 pencil lead. 5gr N570 ADG cases Fed 215mag A little over . 29 3148 99. RL-26 or H1000 for 200 gr bullets. Swamplord Well-Known Member. Search titles only By: Search Advanced search Search titles only I know there's a 28 page thread on the 300 PRC but I'm done trying to wade through it Looking for data and velocity with 225's, 215's, and 230's using N570 and RL26 in a 300 prc. I hbn coat my bullets so I use more powder o. My best results with precision, ES/SD, and velocity with the 230 in the RUM came with N570. I'd consider it the best substitute available. 5 moa and good es numbers. 2 coal. I talked to berger the other day and they had the best velocities for the prc and 284 with retumbo and n570, i know everyone thinks that they are too slow for these cartridges but my results have shown otherwise. Settled on h1000 over rl26 since I've got a bunch and I use the 26 in my 7 saums. This is a crazy stretch, but if you are in the mood for a new powder, Staball HD *may* be interesting. Now with my new reamer and barrel brux 26 inch 1;8 I ran h1000 max out at 3050, retumbo maxed out at 3100 but n570 maxed out at 3200. TxLite WKR. However, I can keep single digit SDs while ES, precision, and velocity all go up with magnum primers and N570. I have not found the two to be anywhere close to each other in how operate. I just sold a There seems to be really good results and lots of info using 565, and H 1000. I had always used Retumbo. N565 in 6. idaho here told me ther retumbo is being snagged up by the military s contract. I live in KC, so the Hodgdon HQ is close. I know N570 is the powder, and he's shooting 195s out of one of his MOA rifles. I have done exactly what your thinking but for a 28 Nosler. With H1K I started at 57g and ended at 59G in 1g increments. . Dec 20, 2023. I'd think your velocity would be higher on N570, though perhaps you're not stepping on it either. I have seen others with n568, n570 have good results but since I have Retumbo on hand I wanted to try this first. My 6. Mar 17, 2022 #10 jesse1004 FNG. I have a quite similar setup and that’s been my recipe for success. Especially brownells, which is in stock currently. Feb 11, 2024. ADG brass SD is consistently under 5 fps and es is always in single digits. Does anyone have the latest load data from Hornady (manual) about 300PRC - 24" barrel Hodgson Retumbo Federal 215 Large Rifle Magnum primers G. You could get more N170 in the case with the normal sized kernels. 300 win mag, 215m primer, h1000, 215 berger. RL33, N570, IMR8133, H1000 all work well too. Switchback2 Well-Known Member. New posts Search forums. 0 - 3,075 98. Am in the process of trying to get my hands on some 195's for my Firebird, and seriously considering N570 as a powder instead of Retumbo. I have two questions here. 143 over SAAMI, ~0. Swapping over to the 168 LRX and my H1000 was just delivered today so will likely start load development there. Dec 1, 2017. Powder - Retumbo 76. Both powders seemed to have an accuracy node at the same FPS. bbhank; Feb 4, 2024; Reloading Depot Replies 5 Views 331. Apr 25, 2018. Wish I had tried n570 too, burned a lot of retumbo in search of lowES, finally settled on H1000. 0gr, and go up to 84. Feb 17, 2022 #17 A He was using a 28Nosler running the 195s at 3070fps with RL33. I have tried rl26, 23, h1000, h4831sc, retumbo, n560, n565, n570 in the 3 rifles I have had. 2. Posted by Wesley Mulkey on Aug 4th 2024 I think you flipped Retumbo for N570. Feb 15, Or if anyone has a dirty little source for Retumbo, RL33, or N570 lol. I agree that if you do it, buy enough for the barrel and run it. To achieve max pressure and velocity, I'd have a compressed load I know the vast majority of data out there suggests n570, but have have a bunch of Retumbo and wondering if it’s slow enough to work. If rl26 doesn't get me over 2950 accurately I'll stick with H1000 at 2900. Joined Feb 21, 2014 Messages 1,736 Location Hello all, I recently did some testing with N570 in my Savage 110BA 338 Lapua. Is worth about 50-75 fps additional velocity over H1000 and Retumbo with the same components. Powder - N570 83. Just wondering why it's not more popular. 300 Norma Mag and use 88. I tried 869, RL33, LRT, 20N29 and Retumbo but just couldn’t get velocity and accuracy I was looking for. Your notes make me think I This a new test and didn’t have the best results with H1000, so I’m trying Retumbo that I have on hand to try. Gives me a bit more flexibility so I am not shut down if one powder becomes short again. C. Retumbo and H1000 would be fine for this. 0SD, . The said dont hold my breath for it. 280 Primer - Federal GM215M Brass - Nosler Retumbo shot it a little more then H1000 but not much started at 72gr - 2701fps 77. I went from the perfect load for my rifle 66. Let’s start with the 100 series. i I know this question will likely cause 50% of readers to pop a vessel, but I have been reading a lot into gunpowder manufacturing. B. I have used it for the last couple rifles I have had. Feb 29, 2020 #7 S. Maybe also look into N570. 6 73. com Reply. D. 2800 will probably be all she does, especially in Hornady brass, adg might get 2850-2875 top end. 765) and with zero pressure am getting 3115 for the 195. patreon. On 20" barrel I used N570 in my 338LM and then 338 Edge. Get access to live stream, lessons, the post exchange, and chat with other snipers. Retumbo would be a good substitute, in stock at lots of places in the last couple weeks. Home. Reactions: Rooster22 and Ladd. May revisit as barrel appears to be speeding up now with a little over a hundred rounds on it. Jun 4, 2023 On a 24" barrel with N570/195 EOL's seeing 2930-2940's. 2 83. 5gr - 2815fps 1/2 MOA ES 23-38 going to test groups of H1000 vs N570 and see what it like at distance. 5 PRC and tried out the N565 with Hornady 143 ELD-X. HONEYBADGER Well-known member. 5-284 Norma, which is the sweet spot for the cartridge. With a length Maybe some confusion on my part as to burn rate of N170 as it appears it is the 500 series of powders (especially N570) that are slower than the corresponding 100 series. I'll be using a 27" 9 twist barrel. Currently running Retumbo in my 300PRC, 225gr ELD-M's, Lapua brass. Excellent velocity and accuracy, was my go-to powder for a while. Elk and deer this year. Average 1-2 grains more because of hbn being extremely thick. once i find max with n570 im going to see if 24n41 has anything to offer with the heavies. Already got the load, thanks. 375. I got info on the RL-33, N570 H1000 and Retumbo. 189 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N560 92. Will try the 230s and if they shoot starting with H 1000 and go to N570 if the Berger 215, 180 vld, 175 elite hunters, n570, retumbo, h1000. 345 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-33 *C 97. of N570 powder today but just got a shipping notification and the order is showing I ordered N170 by mistake!I'm about to panic here,Midway's policy says I can't cancel order and I can't really afford to have $300 worth of powder sitting around I can't use. H50 is too slow and works better once you hit the 377gr or heavier (like the MTAC/Laser). CA MPR 26” Some context: Have a switch barrel short action MPA BA rifle in 6. 5-300’s but as others said it can be rough on throats. 66 FPS per degree. We just did a quick work up. Mar 8, 2022. Reactions: Calvin45, WYO300RUM, TXTrained and 3 others. shawnb Member. Please enable javascript before you are allowed to see this page. Collin_Blank Well-Known Member. 5 gr RL-25 or 95 gr Retumbo both shoot great getting 3175 FPS Retumbo ADG brass Fed Retumbo – Solid Choice for 190s. H4831sc was the most accurate and consistent, retumbo was a very close second. Thread starter TXAoudadKlr; Start date May 11, 2016; Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member. CHEYTAC; Full Story: https://bit. Of the N5XX powders the N565 is likely the best suited for the 7prc. N570 is sold to @MonsterMuley31 pending a meet up on 7/15 Retumbo is still available. 9% fill volume 73gr max charge 100% burnt R26 (don’t have) 2737 fps 93% fill volume 67gr max charge Retumbo worked best for me pushing 190 a tips at 3100 fps. Seems like they are made for each other. Pressure Test Retumbo Vs N570 . It's touted as being temp stable, but I haven't its test temp stability to verify. With all that has happened in the past The Retumbo will be used in a 7mm rm 24" inch barrel with a 162 gr projectile. Reason I bring this up is I really would prefer to run Retumbo (temp stability) vs the RE33. Both are temp stable. 73. Barrelnut Well-Known Member. It was a good thing for me because there was always some Retumbo on a shelf somewhere back in those days. Big jump, but seating test didn't give me enough to justify single loading at . 338 Norma Improved. 33 cal on the PRC/375R case will easily push 250gr Bergers up to, and even slightly over, 3K fps in a 26” long barrel which is significantly faster than any 338 Lapua 250gr Javascript is required. Any data on other powders would be awesome too Thanks It just makes sense that you got more velocity from N570 than Retumbo with less pressure. After I started using it because in 375CT 350 grain bullet category it gave about 50-75 fps faster than Retumbo and shot just as well or better. 300 Win Mag fan boy Home. Did some more Anyone have any experience shooting 215 Bergers ad N570 in the 300 RUM? I am running 230 Bergers at 3165 with N570 and no pressure in my 300 RUM. RL26 is most ideal for 225 to 230 grain bullets, next is H1000. Have to alter loads by 3 grains depending on the lot and burn rate. Retumbo is barely larger than H1000 kernels. N570 177 hammers 82 grains Might have a lead on some N570, doing some research it seems like 869 is very temp sensitive and Not really pertaining to the cartridges mentioned but when I put new barrel on my 300 RUM I started out with N570. I'm trying to get to 2950 fps with Berger 156 eols. I recently ran across a small reloading shop that had 10lb of n570, so I bought it all. Prev. I think I fully mined that thread as of today (11/27/19) but if I N570 really woke mine up but I could feel the throat burning with every shot lol, h1000 and 26 gave me similar results and Retumbo shot the largest groups of the bunch by a fair margin. Retumbo and N570 are probably your best bet. I loaded 50 of these for further testing but my Also n568, n570, RL26. Jul 25, 2017 Just tried it for the first time today. Joined Mar 28, 2020 Messages 178 Location Hull IA. All of the above listed, have safe charges up to 2800 and beyond. Joined Mar 29, 2006 Messages 673. 594 OAL Sub half MOA to 500 **Would not try this load in Hornady brass. Joined Nov 12, 2021 Messages 96 Reaction score 45 Points 18. 338 NORMA MAG. 66. For barrel life. Jan 6, 2023 #7 Yoteklr Well-known member. IMR 8133 is advertised as being temp stable, but that appears It gave me best accuracy and plenty of speed but I found that when you get close to a max load pressure can spike a lot. If I try it later, I’ll add it. With it I have taken a couple of dozen deer, antelope , and coyotes between 600 and 1100 yards with this load, My magnums have been collecting dust. I'm building a 300 PRC as we speak. I’d like to try retumbo also. About $50/pound. 7977 is pretty close to 1000 and 8133 is closer to Retumbo. 5 fps. 745 (lands at 3. It seems to have more sensitivity than the other V V's listed. 9 gr N560. The N568 rifle powder The most recent heavy-weighter in our N500 rifle powder series is the N568. the giant 30 cals need to be ran at or around 3100 or above to make a world of difference. Firearms WTT my desert tech SRS A2 black skins for FDE skins. Lot to lot is crazy. The flame temp is hotter than H1000. I got the base line data from Vihtavuori's load center. 5 N570 3. Mar 6, 2024 #2 D. Proof Tundra, 26” barrel, Defiance Ruckus action. Smokenaces Well-Known Member. The correct choice will ensure ethical kills at your maximum range. For now I’m sticking with N570. Stay tuned for this, as well as additional bullet testing N570 for retumbo. I was much faster shooting N570. 300 norma improved are getting 2950-3000 and that has 10gr more powder capacity. 16 lbs. 76 3169 100. VV N568 reloading data will soon be available on both the VV N570 2x 1 pound bottles same lot asking $100 for both 1x 8 lb jug asking $350 All N570 for $425 Retumbo 5x 1 pound bottles asking $300 for all 5 - two of the Retumbo bottles are sold, three are still available as of July 30th for $180 for all three. Joined Retumbo vs RL33 vs VVN570. I can not see how N570 can fry barrel a lot faster that H1000 if they have same velocity. 57g was just over 3000fps with 59g just over 3200fps. Joined Aug 24, 2013 Messages 776. Still gathering info. Joined May 24, 2020 Messages 124. Joined Dec 4, 2008 Messages 10,582 Location hauser, id. Has anyone had experience running Retumbo in a 28 Nosler? I was running N570 but am running out. 215gr berger, 300RUM, 215m primers. What's new. i have loaded with some retumbo and cci 250 no pressure signs with the max load Hornady recommend for there 180 but I also have them seated at 3. Always curious where others end up. Thread starter 300winnie; Start date Feb 15, 2022; Feb 15, 2022 #1 3. Veteran Well-Known Member. longrangehunting. S. Ill be posting my loads whn my rifle is finnished Rifle: Barrel: Brass: Bullet: Primer: VV N570 vs RL33. 0 - 3,303 97. Reactions: Lancetkenyon, nomrcynd, Broz and 3 others. I see it costs a couple more dollars. H1000 ran about 70 FPS faster than Retumbo 4. Observations: 1. It will be a 30" barrel, lapua I’m putting together a 7 WSM for a deer hunt over Christmas break. Bobby Ball. For example I run 93 grains H1000 in my edge with 300 grain Bergers. Just have to use an electric toothbrush to settle the powder. Full Member. Try them . 9 87. 5 MOA. I dont have any 156s yet but have always gotten best velocities and acceptable es using retumbo in my 6. Retumbo was slower, I started with 58g and ended with 60g in 1g increments. Joined Jun 21, 2017 Messages 497 Location nv. Powder 82. Haven't tried H1000 in this barrel because the N570 Hi guys, Ordered what I thought was 5 lbs. Reactions: philcox. Retumo has been an all around winner for me in several cartridges. Joined Sep 2, 2019 Messages 2,372 Location Komifornia. It is a 1/8 twist and I'm looking to shoot both the 250 A-Tips as well as the 245 EOLs. I just picked up 2 8lb jugs of n570 and didn’t have to rush to order it. 6fps/in ave Lets get some loads posted for the 300 Remington Ultra Mag. Featured content New posts New profile posts Latest activity. CoolBreeze777. Thread starter Rem81; Start date Jan 5, 2019; Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member. PLEASE REMEMBER TO TAKE EXTREME CAUTION WITH ANY INDIVIDUAL LOAD DATA AND WORK UP FROM PUBLISHED MINIMUM DATA N570 95. 300 RUM loads especially if any of you are loading with N570. Had H1000 but gone. B And at a decent price I think. 5's like a 6. You would need to stick with N555, RL26, H4350, RL23, RL16. More testing is needed but I'm currently leaning toward running with the N568. Would love to hear some of you guys favorite . Man the is really smokin' !! I run I have plenty of N570 and Retumbo and I should be able to match the velocity or maybe even get a little more, but will I see any improvement in accuracy with these powders? I started using it because in 375CT 350 grain bullet category it gave about 50-75 fps faster than Retumbo and shot just as well or better. I never worked up to pressure with N570 but I was using adg brass as well and had 70+ fps gain in velocity. Or go to N570 and see how it does. Its too slow as is N570 and N565 is on the edge. I have been using Retumbo with the 195s but recently ran out. Takman Well-Known Member. 243 and the smaller 6. Nov 28, 2019 #5 Thanks for all of the feedback. I've seen a wide range of powders beings discussed for this, including N565, N570, RL23, RL26, H1000, Retumbo, H4350. 047 off lands). Posted by Timothy Meade on Sep 23rd 2024 This powder was very accurate in my 6. Joined Jan 10, 2020 Trying to decide on a powder for 300 gr projos for the . If you’re not hung up on the N5XX powders, Retumbo might also be worth a shot. N570 was close to 100 fps faster. Mar 24, 2023 #9 B. I will never advocate shooting elk with calibers smaller than Went with the temp stable Retumbo and H 1000 which were consistent in the weather here, whether practicing in the valley or at 6500' in the mountains. I got lots of info from the Berger company today and the N570 was the fastest. n570 powder N570 has been doing great in my 18” with 180 hybrids. Thread starter Berry228; Start date Oct 23, 2019; Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member. 5 for pressure based on other forums. Thread starter BallisticExpansion; Start date Jan 4, 2021; Jan 4, 2021 #1 BallisticExpansion New member. philcox WKR. QL shows a max load of Retumbo with the 140 Berger from a 26in barrel being 3200fps and a max load of N570 at 3250fps. Retumbo vs imr 8133. I’ve been looking at imr 8133, and n570 but of course can’t get my hands on any . 0 65000 15867 1. Berry228 Well-Known Member. In 3220 fps ES 7fps packs a wallop on swamp donkeys sounds like its close to retumbo 83. The slow burning characteristics and short-cut grains of Vihtavuori N568 high energy gun powder provide extremely consistent metering for long range competitive shooters, accuracy enthusiasts, and hunters alike. 6 grains, COAL 3. Use the info 6. I don't believe it is. Did a little 200 yards work, to get velocities and groups for my 338 Norma Mag. Retumbo is what we used in the 7 PRC for the Nightforce ELR match, and it shot great under the 190 grain Hornady A-Tip bullet. 2 5. Haven't ran N570 because I save that for my 300 Norma. 268” coal 2730 FPS Saami chamber that i had throated longer to accommodate the 156. Used Uni-Throater to cut for 195s seated w/ boattail at neck/shoulder junction. SeabeeKen. I'd start at 88 grains I just found some Fairy Dust in the form of R26, Retumbo, and H1000 at a local sporting goods store. I have n570 h1000 and retumbo on hand. Well we all have used this at sometime. You might try RL33 for grins too. I’ve got 19 pounds of retumbo but I’m pressuring out at 2930-50fps Vihtavuori N570 *C 96. Bfish22 Lil-Rokslider. 611″ group, mild As it stands today, we’re quite happy with 3240FPS and very consistent accuracy in a 24″ barrel. thanks to all! Reply. Also looking to trade H4350, Out of the same identical loads with retumbo and N570, the IMR 8133 grouped the best. I use N570 (but not in 28 nosler) In my test from -5 to 23 Celsius it moves 2. 30-06, 300 WIN MAG, 300 NORMA MAG as well as the . Savage ultralight retumbo Adg brass with the 195 has been incredible in my buddies rifle that I helped set up. Thread starter Vol1975; Start date Jan 12, 2020; Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Vihtavuori N570 100. 5PRC with good results. 434 COAL 2954 fps ave . HANGum HIGH Well-Known Member. 65 3032 100. Ive never seen r26 so I dont believe it exists. And N570 is 2 grains more than H1000. If you can round up more H1000 I would try it. Long range accuracy (700- 1050 yards) has been good with Retumbo. I decided to develop a load for my TRG with the Hornady 285 ELD-M and Retumbo , and settled on the longest feed-able length I could make work reliably - 3. If thats the case the others like h1000 will be in higher demand unfortunately. 20N29 was the most accurate but couldn’t get more than about 3150FPS out So I have a fierce rival carbon xp 24 in barrel waiting on delivery. If this new N568 turns out to be something like a short cut N570 I think you will see a lot of happy campers. Donate. 8 western really decent velocity with 175 grain bullets. Jun 18, 2020 I decided to mine the 300 PRC thread in the ELR subforum for handload data ahead of starting to work up a load for my rifle, working backwards from recent posts. 300 rums and I only load 200 gr Accubonds either 91. Apr 24, 2023 #10 H. 0 grain interval. Thread starter picone; Start date Oct 7, 2012; P. H1000, Retumbo, N570. 5 gr COAL - Will Update Freebore . I found some retumbo a month ago, while I was in afghanistan, at reloading unlimited and ended up talking to the guy and he answered a bunch of other questions I had N560 N565 RL-26 Retumbo H1000 Previously I have had velocities for 84. Bullet mass and impact velocity should be heavily considered when choosing a cartridge. Retumbo. Joined Sep 28, 2014 Messages 172 Reaction score 4 Points 18. 5 - 2886fps ejector mark. Thread starter Barehandlineman11; Start date Sep 1, 2020; Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member I was about to start development for a 28nos, N570, 195 EOL. 300 PRC with the 225 Grain ELD-M. H1000 in this rifle was . I feel very comfortable doing ladder tests and identifying pressure signs. I'll be there tomorrow though. You could probably drop the min down a grain or 2 for retumbo for N570. 9 gr N560 in the 2825-2850 range for 250 gr www. I got pressure with all of the powders as velocity approached 2,800 FPS. Next Last. 5 MOA Ive run H1000, H4831sc, Retumbo, N560, N565 and N570 in the 7prc. Question: Is N570 too slow for the 350's. Joined Jul 4, 2022 Messages 153 N570 is pretty good stuff, havent seen any extra errosion (sure there is standard creep) in my Norma but dont borescope either. But wow the accuracy and speed with low N565: (NEW FOR 2018!) Designed to fill the gap between N560 and N570. I would recommend a 28 inch barrel for retumbo or N570 (which you have). My 26 inch 9 twist likes them just over 3100fps with RL 26 and N570. I'm stuck using LRT as an example. Good luck . Apr 23, 2024; Thread Starter #9 OP . Thatonekid; Apr 24, 2018; Replies 1 Views 1K. I would try the H1000 loads first. Joined Feb 18, 2016 Messages 285. 260. H1000, retumbo, N570, rl 26, magnum powders. (7mm Rem, 300 WM , 300 PRC) If that is a wrong assumption someone please correct me. Reactions: Broz. The speed from n570 is nice if it shoots but in my rifle, with that bullet it was a no go. Note where I "dialed in" W/E adjustments. 9 64500 15817 1. I settled on 66. There was a node above the one we used that was faster that we are revisiting. I have shot incredible groups with this combo and the gen 1 300 grain bergers 30 thousands off, for what its worth. Retumbo was getting hard to get before the Covid hit and and now its **** near impossible!!!. In the 195 EOL & 168 VLD Some of the powders they tried were StaBALL HD, Magnum, LRT, Retumbo, H4831, & IMR7828SSC. 300winnie Member. anybody in the everett/seattle area willing to trade a lb of n570 for a lb of retumbo? contact Allan at 425 422 0104. Reactions: Earnhardt. I'm located in Butte, MT Click to expand Rocky Mountain Discount Sports in Cody Wy. Aug 5, 2021 #70 J2shooter Well-known member. I'm a big Vihtavuori fan (it's always been the most consistent from day to day for me), but I'm a little disappointed in the size of the kernels I'm running H1000 in mine with the 212 eld-x and getting great groups. 338 Lapua. Oct 16, 2022 #3 georgelza Member. 5x284s with the berger 140s. I know of a couple guys who'd Any idea what this powder is supposed to do that N565 or N570 doesn't? Aside from saying 6. tooth doc; Mar 8, 2022; Replies 1 Views 487. 215s should do better than 3000 in your rifle w/ N565 or N570. I'm stopping I used Retumbo in the Rums for years and it produced better velocity than h1000 with respectable es. 4 4. Do you tip your game processor. Mild pressure. At 118-125g of powder per shot, at just Between Rl 26 and the N570 can any body give me their thoughts on which powder they prefer. Joined Apr 3, 2014 Messages 626 Reaction score 179 Points 43. 8fps/in ave Retumbo @ 26" runs 3,304fps 39. Collected a fair amount among with N,565. Joined Jun 11, 2020 Messages 17 Reaction score 3 Points 3. May 19, 2019 #6 hseII Member. I bought a 300PRC which I can’t really load with my existing powder. Capt If you want a temp stable powder in the same slow magnum burn rate, H1000 and Retumbo are what's available. From what I have read, N560 is not as temperature insensitive as N565 and N570. 020" off. 338 Norma AI but I have 16lbs to burn, just a bummer because a week after my big purchase I scored 20 lbs of Retumbo! (µ/ý XTæ jãZˆD0Ef ÀÀÀÀÀ@U º`íø¶¥”ºE®h Ú$‰ÜéÉGœbÜ ™«ªÖåÊŒjYsï·|ßo»ýíWoŸ¹³½¤¡ Á % Y ¥ ß¿µÅÔ›ÒYjÜùˆê¾O² Å g¦ÖfŠóÔÞ¦. 1; 2; 3; Next. cartridge that normally only works to it's best with powders like US 869, RL33 (bad on throats) H50BMG and 24n41. 196 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon Retumbo 104. Jul 26, 2006 75 7 So Cal. My 30 nosler is getting accuracy @ 3050 w/ H1000, 3125 w/ N570 or RL26. N570 is the bulkiest powder I have used. We used the N560 and RS80 for 338LM. Reactions: danj and 338 dude. 0 64500 15344 1. Joined Jul 31, 2012 Messages 670. 5-284 Win and 8133 in my 28. TriggerTime426 Well-Known Member. Reactions: ButterBean and Recon$$ Recon You guys should try retumbo for bullets around the 350gr weight in the CT. First Prev 2 of 3 Go to page. For some, this needs to be considered. So it sounds like my best ball powder option in this grossly overbore 1/4 bore Might get better velocity with retumbo but as I understand it H1000 can be a bit cleaner and more consistent as well as temp insensitive. Looked at a couple of resources like Hodgdon website and GRT, but they didn’t list the Berger 245s. My current loads with RL33 are very good loads, but I The main distributor in n. I have to get my load developed before elk season. 5 gr Retumbo 215M 2950 fps as great as re33 might be, its non existent in bulk form unless you are already stocked up pre-covid. H. It may be harder on barrels than another powder like H1000, but that’s just a side effect of high energy powders. 5 CM, with the West Texas Ordnance SwitchLug system. Joined Looking for loads and velocity with N570 and RL26 in a 300 PRC with 225's and 215's, or similar weights. I don't know what you were told, but Berger gave me a starting load for the 300 PRC that was beyond a safe maximum!. Reactions: 338 dude and PAGSDIII701. Retumbo @ 26" runs 3,254fps 38fps/inch ave N570 @ 26" runs 3,371fps 44. Maybe on Retumbo - 3710 RL33 - 3900 N570 - 3950 . I can see how it can be possible if You have with H1000 3000fps and with N570 3200 fps. I'd be interested to your your charge weight vs where you hit pressure signs. Joined Apr 1, 2015 Messages 1,877 Location North Idaho. I don't like the format of the powder burn charts at the upper end of the lists. Sykes Well-Known Member. 5859D841-072D-43F3-AD44-5A6BC568BA6F. Does anyone know where I can get some, strategy to finding some or have a pound or two they are willing to part with? I don’t even mind paying more than Retumbo in 7mm RM with 160-180gr bullets is an awfully hard combo to beat. Here are my thoughts. Joined Oct 19, 2018 Messages 100 Sherman 7 Max, built on a Defiance XM action, so I can load heavier bullets out to 3. I haven't even tried it yet in new barrel ! N570 was so accurate and low ES and SD. jpeg. How is the temperature stability? And how is it comparing to H100 and Retumbo? Want #154 Retumbo (can't find) Maybe sub with #151 RL26 or #156 N570 Any thoughts, suggestions that you may have if you own any of the three builds listed for powders used and load data. Recent Posts H4350 is a faster burning powder and is used a lot in . I have not yet tried a 25-06AI. I've always liked h1000 and retumbo. picone Private. These two poders are prefered and used in Shooting 338 LMAI with good results. freebird said: I loaded up 6 rounds today and gave them a try. I am looking to save the life of my barrels a bit more so I have decided to go with Retumbo. I have never used N570 so can't speak from experience and won't guess based on what I hear/read. aspxlucvfcpmoerlysfcwohjdbzbwzbozfjmwlorkhpwxjrr
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