Gp junior doctor reddit 11 of these days of TOOT are due to striking. I for one always request appointments with a doctor and I would advise others to do the same. The office hours are longer than hospital folk imagine but they're still nowhere near as antisocial as other specialties - you have to do something like 6 out of hours shifts per 6 months, plus usually in the region of 8. source: am Irish, moved to UK for training Get the Reddit app Scan this QR code to download the app now. They allocate those that need to be seen to others, they will see the ones they’ve taken a history from for examination if necessary, and ask those that need prescriptions /bloods / When I got mine as ST1 worked out around 9. I feel a weight has been lifted. 10 sessions as a GP locum is very different to a salaried doctor Most GP sessions are 3hrs vs 4-5hrs for salaried. 6. A seismic paycut, but it's only for a few years . Have any GP trainees had there ARCPs yet? Don’t have anything to add, totally agree with all your points (I’ve never done a GP job and don’t intend to now I’m in anaesthetics) I think GP in the good old days sounded like a sweet gig - be a family doctor, look after generations of family from cradle to grave and be part of a community with your little practice. I was told that to until I started to consider actually moving there. I also know of a few GPs who CCT'd and are now doing SpR training in sports medicine, and I know there are some other ST3 routes (such as genetics) for people straight out of GP training. The practice manager already suggested one - to look at how effectively a general practitioner's time is being used: (1) Audit the reasons for making an appointment to see the doctor and look at the outcomes from each appointment (2) See if the appointment could have been made with some other health professional at the practice (3) Train & put up posters in the reception so As for medical specialities, I think care of the elderly is very useful and relevant to GP compared to ones like gastro and acute med, as in GP you see a lot of chronic stuff and have to do medication reviews etc. After five years’ of completed NHS service: 32 days. Doctors have a tight fraternity, tend to close ranks Vs outsiders. Did my FP in Yorkshire and then locumed for 3 years around there and in Australia. GP is shorter training scheme, you can earn more. I never understood how the other GP partners allowed it. I'm young. Get the Reddit app Scan this QR code to download the app now. Depends on where you are ie London much lower than Isle of White. GP in Ireland is very competitive and highly-sought-after because the working conditions are tolerable (and perhaps even better than NHS GP). The salary scales for DHB-employed senior doctors can be found here, and for DHB-employed junior doctors they're here and here. But problems behind the scenes have meant many have not The term junior doctor encompasses the majority of doctors under consultant level, which for most doctors lasts around five to ten years after graduation. We need our Doctors to understand why we are Striking - and to continue Striking - until the Government meets our demands. My work week alternates between 3. Consider higher taxes and it My wife did her GP training in Exeter and East Devon. Peope expect a Ferrari service on a Ford budget and come in with 4 things to discuss, sometimes all of which are valid concerns. I GP land is not like the hospital, working a 12 hr gp in a+e shift is not as physically demanding as being RMO or a Medical SHO on the take team. I’m in GP now and in the world of GP, it’s rare to see a single person, I feel like the doctors who do GP are the ones who do it for family, because every practice I’ve worked in, I’ve always been the only one not married no kids. It is actually disgusting how expensive it is here for anything remotely decent. Question directed at doctors who aren't in training schemes and locum full-time, regardless of grade. 30pm for No f3 as still on a visa so would be a hassle/would require long term post. I think if you have a medical degree from one of MOH selected schools, should not be a problem. I keep telling the F1s/F2s that GP is the objectively correct specialty to apply to, and the only reason not to is if you love something else or actively dislike GP (unfortunately for me, I'm both of those things). Your job is listening. I’m a GP training currently in an ITP post. I did exactly 0 portfolio reflections last year :') Reddit iOS Reddit Android Reddit Premium About Reddit Advertise Blog Careers Press. The dilemma is also between some northern and southern regions. 100% agree with doing GP if it is a career you are considering as I know people who went into GP training without any previous experience and it turned out to not be what they expected. Wife is more of a "portfolio" GP. Specialty / Core Training GP offers were out today. If you want to earn anything above 200k a year as a Gp LOCUM you just have to be intentional about the shifts you choose. So many GPs go into it for the wrong reasons and are utterly miserable and trapped by the decent salary and their own mortgage. And big bonus would be Could I ask other GP trainees / qualified GPs whether I should upload evidence of all of these, or whether that would be similar to spamming the portfolio. UK GP trainee here; spent 18 months in Australia during “F4” & “F5” in 2018-19 (pre-pandemic) 6 months in Brisbane 10 months in Melbourne 2 months locuming in Canberra Pay is excellent. They get to work as a limited company if they work private so pay less tax and have the tax write offs that are associated with it. But you can still learn stuff relevant to GP in any of the medical specialities. I completed a baby-check module recently prior to carrying one out in practice and therefore attached that to the CCR - is this the preferred method? Many thanks Get the Reddit app Scan this QR code to download the app now. Score available but no ranking yet. I've been thinking about moving from the shit-show that is IMT + hospital medicine to GP training for some time, and think I'm finally ready to make the switch. The theoretical minimum for a GP is 5 years post medical school graduation. For your long-term care, your registered doctor will now be working closely with a small team called a clinical firm. I know of some GPs who are now EM consultants after CESR because they worked as middle grades in EM for many years. To top this up the residents in America often do 60+ hour weeks whilst we can get away with 48. I don't think I want to be a GP, ever and 2. Those were the pushes away from GP, but the pull to being a physician was cemented by my first medical job where I learned that even as a very junior doctor, you could sort out pretty sick patients - crashing LVF, cyanosed and moribund - furosemide, nitrates and morphine and 2 hours later they would be sitting up and talking. In my region, they were offering it in the hospital that is 1hr away from where most people live, and is so bad that they had all of their junior docs taken away except GPSTs! I’d be very wary It's very admin heavy and after the consultation you have to do your own jobs vs in a hospital where you delegate to juniors. Good question. A few people have recommended counselling but I'm hesitant as it will come up on my record and I'm not a fan of my university. Private GP has so much control on your own working hours, on top of that, your hourly rate is crazy, a private GP is one of the richest doctor career. But if you want a career in any hospital specialtyavoid. Dr Robert Gittings graduated from medical school in It is definitely worth it - you will get 20, 40, or 60% of your money back depending on the highest rate of income tax you pay. In my F2 GP job I got exposed to SO MUCH gynae, and hadn't done a speculum since medical school. Also, not all rotations offer the same set of specialties, so any input as to what to look for is appreciated. Rigorous training standards. Also quite daunting to start back near the bottom and have a load more exams to get through in quite a different phase of my life to when I last did exams. When I was applying for my CMT job initially, Gp interviews happened after CMT offers, so probably a lot less GP offers were held by people who wanted to do something else. I do wish I'd loved GP in my F2, I'd be CCTing now as well, but with respect it was incredibly dull and lonely and I hated the fact that As above I am UK based have been offered a GP job in Canada, I wonder if anyone has been in a similar situation and made this transition or any Canadian based physicians who could share some wisdom and advice. People are getting sicker. I'm a medical student trying to decide between moving to the USA for internal or family med, or staying in the UK and training as a GP. Given how competitive getting a spot in London has been this year compared to previous years, that’s what I’d do I am not a doctor but a nurse in the UK. Also housing is expensive as is most of Devon due to second home owners and holiday let's. Your last paragraph is unanswerable. Pay per session is around 12-13K (including employer contributions) so salaried and around 14K for locum Choice is easy (unless you are planning on having a baby) For example, You could work as a prison GP/locum GP some days a week with the other days at a GP surgery near by or online as a telehealthGP. Any help greatly appreciated :) ** This subreddit is now closed to new submissions - our new home is /r/doctorsUK ** A community for UK-based doctors to chat about their experiences, share articles and hang out. You can find this info in the approved jurisdictions drop down on their website under the internationally trained doctors section. NICE guideline NG3 (1. I did a number of duty doctor shifts at my practice and it was relentless. Does anyone know of/remember the tool to be able to do this? Would be extremely useful! Thanks so much, Weasel ENT comes in useful (plus is usually a really nice job), and if you're female then as a GP your future will be disproportionately filled with Gynae, so having some confidence about what you're looking at is probably a good shout. Additionally residents in the us earn around 50k which is around the national average and junior doctors earn around 30-50k, which would acc put out juniors at a better position. 5 days, with a non resident night, and a 1in 8 non-resident weekend. Again, it depends. Anyone can do a feverpain score and follow a guideline and it's not particularly gratifying work for a GP with 20 years of experience. I’ve had more GP exposure than rads. Thanks Am a junior dr. GP partner No salary, but as a business owner you take a share of the profits. No question. Seems to be extremely competitive this year. 2nd year onwards become medical officers (MOs). Don't need to redo any of 300k billing, 200k after overhead. I don’t get paid any more than a GP who failed or borderline passed numerous assessments. GP F2 job is the only time you can try out GP before committing to the training programme, which is worth baring in mind. The annual leave entitlement for a full-time doctor is as follows, based on a standard working week of five days: On first appointment to the NHS: 27 days. ** This subreddit is now closed to new submissions - our new home is /r/doctorsUK ** A community for UK-based doctors to chat about their experiences, share articles and hang out. COVID seems to have exposed what is (in my experience at least) a 50:50 split in GPs. You would remember that during training, you will be taught how to manage medical complexities and chronic disease management so I think you will enjoy cracking your teeth at some of the tougher cases. Honestly, if you can stick it out and CCT you'll walk into any GP job here, they're super keeno. DO NOT DO GP I am a GP trainee in London - only came back due to having family and commitments. The honest truth about the ‘coveted locum GP life’. The number for gross GP earnings is 300K generally so take-home is actually closer to 200K (pre-tax). 5k after deductions and taking off standard ST1 in GP salary. GP is probably the except as training is short and lots of vacancies. Hello! Any GP's on here moved to/ worked in canada? If so, is it a good QOL? And is it possible to do 3-4 days a week like it is in the UK? I like ED & GP but seriously considering GP so I can move to Canada long term. The survey doesn't close until 24th August then it will take a couple of weeks to analyse the data and ensure that only responses from BMA members are counted. An actual working day is more intense and hands-on than arguably most hospital consultants (no junior, management roles etc) Unfairly being looked down upon by non-GP colleagues Given political climates, I fear the loss of the current autonomy and independence of the GP life. Average gp work 30 years as a gp, which means you can get your lifetime earning within 6 years and remaining 24 years you can go back to Peterborough and retire. Or check FY2 you do a series of rotations in different specialties, commonly a surgical specialty, a community specialty (GP/psychiatry, paediatrics), Medical specialty does that change as you become an older junior doctor (I do know things ease up once you Now: I hate my job. Foundation - 2 Years. 5 days and 4. Consultants stay in multimillion dollar houses. Someone in their mid-30s could potentially be either a junior or early senior doctor depending on when they started medical school and how quickly they progressed through their postgraduate training scheme. Time is the most valuable thing in life I’d agree with this - because the contract is “cost neutral” it means the specialty pay premia awarded to places like A&E, Histopath, psych and GP have come from cutting the pay of other doctors - and in the main it was people like O&G and anaesthetics who have a lot of out of hours commitment but don’t quality for the pay premia. I understand that the jobs people recommend/discourage are often going to reflect personal preferences, but I wanted to get a general feel for people's experiences. When I used to work in hospital medicine, I recall there being a way to call GP surgeries directly, therefore bypassing the reception staff and being able to talk to the duty GP and saving a huge amount of time. ) out of what is grossed from their billings. As for junior doctors it’s all online but you can supplement a bit more with locums ~£40-60/hr depending on area. I soon realized as a GP trainee that a lot of GPs work part time as the work/life balance is tough. My colleagues have bought nice houses, have children in private school, and the I started GP training (finished GPST1 then resigned) - I'm now a Psych CT1. I think experiences for GPs are often very different to this, I worked there for four years as a GP and loved it (im only back in the UK for family reasons at the moment) if anyone is doing GP training or is a GP who needs advice or information about working in Oz then feel free to get in touch, I didn’t have a lot of support when trying to relocate so I’m happy to give some clear I'm an F3, currently not working (to focus on hobbies and other stuff), starting GP training in April 2021 (deferred entry from Aug 2020). Be careful of media numbers in the current environment - different groups have different incentives to make pay seem higher or lower than in reality. Many GPs remain wholly ignorant to the plight of The NHS is overwhelmed. Unfortunately it depends on job and can change with mere weeks notice, in theory. Regarding verification, here is my answer to a similar question on the other post : The other 50% of the time is lab related stuff - as a junior SpR that's mostly observing how assays are done and having a go at them and then is you become more experienced you start to wprk on introducing new assays/getting involved in lab management. As I said some areas are larger, but I genuinely think the choices at application are better for GP in terms of location than any other speciality. I’ve had 22 days of TOOT (with 14 being the limit for extension of training). The pay is phenomenal. Or check it out in our new home is /r/doctorsUK ** A community for UK-based doctors to chat about their Nickbak4. As for GP partners, most do earn more than specialists, usually around 100 to 120k per year. Lots of potential things to talk about! Link it back to what you wish to do long term e. In hospital medicine you almost can't avoid falling into some sort of social circle with your colleagues. I’ll be applying to GP training at the end of this year and my partner is choosing preferences for his training atm. Converted to usd that's 150k USD, approximately half of what an American FM physician would be paid. I'm slightly confused as to what things I need to consider while ranking the rotations; I'm confused if I should start with a hospital rotation or a GP rotation. 45pm, maybe 5. Pay wise UK GP actually seems to come surprisingly close, it seems like there are plenty of £750+ a day locu,m jobs going and it would be realistic to hit $200k doing approx 40 hours a week (4 days a week 46 weeks a year), coming close to the ** This subreddit is now closed to new submissions - our new home is /r/doctorsUK ** A community for UK-based doctors to chat about their experiences, share articles and hang out. Two GPs in our unit left last year for Melbourne. I've seen doctors from Nepal and India take years for full registration, but doctors from other countries have been quite fast. They generally know their juniors uite well and seem interested/invested in their careers. Hadn’t had a GP rotation as it was taken away due to Covid. However 1. For the science bit it also missed the point, asking way too much on eg vaccination schedules and paediatric milestones rather than focusing on the key issues (common things are common etc) You want to be a doctor then go do 5 years of medical school, 2 years of foundation training and then 3 years of GP training. It wont leave you aching all over and and exhausted. Ngl I would feel like a bit of a tit. ST1–didn’t have any GP rotations, hated hospital medicine (Geri’s and paeds) and it made GP seem all the more tempting. Hello docs, just looking for some guidance here. Broadly, they can tackle a lot of the jobs that keep junior doctors so busy on the wards: assessing patients, analysing test results and developing ma I am thinking of becoming a doctor in the future but was just wondering what life as uk doctor in foundation training is like? I've read lots of posts and articles saying how hard it is BBC News asked two junior doctors, at different stages of their careers, to show us their wage slips and explain exactly how much they earn. What sort of things can you do as a portfolio GP, other than standard GP practice work? Reddit iOS Reddit Android Reddit Premium About Reddit Advertise Blog Careers Press. Emphasis on 'highly mobile doctors' because I doubt that many UK docs consider working in NZ for life (or > 1 year for that matter) The information about our Strikes needs to be targeted at Junior Doctors outside of this forum. true. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. The safety net is the patient’s responsibility. Also is it possible to do occasional ED shifts whilst working as a GP in canada? Thanks 😁 By that time most of them would be fed up and lose interest in their main specialty and just choose whatever or just remain as a trust grade doctor. I've known since F1 that I wanted to be a GP, but during my time during F1/F2, I had encounters with several GP trainees/fully-qualified GPs who'd sat MRCP1+2+PACES and recommended I do so too. The structure and payment style seems quite different to the UK. Lead plaintiff Dr Amireh Fakhouri is now a GP at Utopia Refugee and Asylum Seeker Health at Hoppers Crossing in Melbourne’s south-west. I think this term lead to so many issues, including other hospital staff treating us like children as we are juniors, and I think part of the problem why PA/ANPs/allied HCP treat us as assistants to them/ junior to them (while in reality we are NOT !) Get the Reddit app Scan this QR code to download the app now. It's unclear what proportion of these doctors work full/part-time but the general consensus is that being a partner can be physically and emotionally draining, takes up a lot of unpaid time and involves a lot of Get the Reddit app Scan this QR code to download the app now. It's very admin heavy and after the consultation you have to do your own jobs vs in a hospital where you delegate to juniors. Thinking about going into gp and working abroad in a few ED hospitals as locum gp. Alternatively I did hear of somebody getting most of the UK GP training recognised and joining the training programme and only having to do 1 year of GP training in NZ but dont quote me on that From another reply in the thread, it looks like there are a few things about GP you might really like. Physicians are independent contractors and have to pay out overhead expenses (rent, supplies, etc. . This was in response to a locum who had been working for 5 weeks. ADMIN MOD GP training . I feel significantly richer than non doctor friends here despite still being relatively junior. 5hrs on average is what my work schedule pays, 30-40 hrs is what I actually work when I calculate how much time I work e. Or check it out our new home is /r/doctorsUK ** A community for UK-based doctors to chat about their Kobi-21. I've only known one salaried GP. I disagree that A&E teaches you to really become a doctor over other jobs (though it really depends on what you mean by that statement). ' If you're applying for GP, A&E or psych you probably will get in first time, so probably makes more sense to decide before applying. All in hours 9-5. Very true but I was more talking about which is most compatible with family life and spending time with family. I'm a GP who does 50% GP and 50% A&E in a role where GPs fill a senior decision maker role (so not just seeing minors or primary care type patients, doing department managing, supervising juniors, running resus etc). That's the real value of a GP. Almost every specialty will require out of hours work during training (including GP when doing the 12 or 18 months of hospital-based specialties), whereas PAs do almost entirely in-hours work, from my understanding. Most actually married non medics but there were a few that married other doctors. To add to the difference of doctors vs dentists. The best work/life specialties IMO include pathology, I see that the job offers are plenty and the paycheck is also fine, but I would like to know and I NEED to know the reality as a GP working doctor. Thanks! Archived post. Torbay has similar issues. Both seem to offer flexibility in terms of work life balance and place of work (do not want to be tied to a large hospital for my career) Would love to hear from current trainees in both schemes of pros and cons. The HSE is notorious for absolutely chewing up and spitting out junior doctors via an abysmal system. Small city so minimal transport time, easy to move from one hospital to another. Or You are literally talking about the 0. Wondering if anyone in or newly out of GP training would share what their take home pay is/was like. Pros: Really enjoyed having so much time for patients. For family physicians, for example, overhead is generally 30%. I doubt you'll have any useful insight here, so from a person outside looking in, I suggest that you visit r/doctorsUK and use the keyword "Australia" and you'll get some useful insight on where to go. The patient outcomes are probably not significantly different to seeing me and seeing a below average GP (according to usual academic metrics). 14) says all women who have had gestational diabetes should be offered an annual HbA1c. If you're undecided on specialty then F3 could be a good opportunity to explore, although you'll probably not get locums in derm or GP. This applies to most professional fees - BMA, AMA-I’m a experienced money-motivated locum GP. In other words, there will be a greater impetus to improve their conditions. The job actually has perks eg I can pay ten bucks a week subscription to use any gym in the state at any time I want. How is it in real life, is there a lot of paper As a GP, you don't have a crowd of juniors to do stuff for you, seeing patients and making decisions on your own sooner, but you have your senior GPs to consult as a trainee. I know I'm too late for the round 1 entry for August 2022, and assume that Round 2 will be slim pickings and there may be little choice on location given that competition has gone up (no Round 1 re-advert). That plus tax pretty much negates going for it in the first place. GP trainees apparently have to do some insane number that boils down to at least one a week and whilst it was not the only pro/con it definitely went in my 'negatives' column for GP training! For CMT (and I presume IMT) you don't actually have to do any. 1k with a few % yearly increment. My score is 443. So if your dr seems angry all the time, this is why🙃 So I don't actually work a set 47. Typically these areas are very commutable. The public tend to be unable to understand that being a generalist is the hardest and most special of specialities. It's easy enough to train part time as GP. Currently living at my mums with my wife whilst we save. The way they work it out is a bit crazy but everyone I know got around the same amount (depending on previous jobs etc). Its not uncommon to see partners doing locum shifts. Or check it out in the app stores     TOPICS our new home is /r/doctorsUK ** A community for UK-based doctors to chat about their experiences, Making this the GP megathread and redirecting other GP offer questions to this one Reply reply Been searching around to see what the take home pay is like for those in GP training but can’t find much. PH training is quite flexible (normal working week, project based work etc) so, for example, I know a couple of GPs who do GP 2 days a week and then train at 60% ltft in ph for the other 3. If you don't mind patients telling you what they want, GP is ok. Radiology could be big bucks and there could be interventional stuff. I am currently applying to the UK foundation programme and have started gaining advice from current junior doctors to guide the application process. That seems far more sensible - releasing GP offers first is just causing a lot of offers to be held as a safe choice by people who would rather do something else. It's The thing that bothers me and puts me off studying to become a doctor is the negative attitudes towards the work of the vast majority of junior doctors there. The difference between GP and the hospital is that in hospital, patients are sick until proven otherwise; in GP it’s the other way round - well until proven sick. Also option to do something like Diploma in Mental Health alongside GP. 00X or 0. A GP has a lot more opportunities to earn more as well. I keep getting opposite advice on how to effectively prep for the AKT - some people mentioned just studying BNF/NICE/SIGN, others focused on question banks, and others just watched YouTube videos/fourteenfish fish videos. This varies with practice performance. Didn’t think Passmed was very good for the ethics scenarios- didn’t lay out the questions like the exam nor was the content similar. Definitely go & join the picket at your hospital So, I’m quite nervous with my upcoming ARCP prior to ST3. 000X% of doctors in the UK. and manage patients with tons of stuff going on. Or check it out in the app stores our new home is /r/doctorsUK ** A community for UK-based doctors to chat about their experiences, I’m a GP ST1. This is the exact quote from the gov website. Or check it out in the app stores our new home is /r/doctorsUK ** A community for UK-based doctors to chat about their experiences, It felt just very vague and niche and the GP self test questions weren't representative of the actual AKT. It annoys me graeatly that GPs are being treated like a shop front. I always like to pause a think a moment of our dear colleagues, the GP trainees, whose reflection burden is so severe and back breaking it legitimately went on my list of 'reasons why not to apply for GP training'. Big pro of GP is the ease of working a 3 day week post training (along with the shorter scheme) - however allot of areas of acute psych really interest me which you wouldn’t be Can't imagine a more demoralising time to go into general practice to be perfectly honest. I wouldn't base your decision on service provision. All are welcome to join the discussion! However this is a sub for doctors and we expect medical school topics to go under r/medicalschooluk or a more appropriate sub and non medical questions would probably be filtered to r/AskDocs. I’m a PGY-3 FM (GP) Downvote me this information is wrong but someone was saying on reddit recently that it's quite achievable. K. I was a few years post CCT and now a I'm new radiology trainee. Seems to work v well for them all. You can salary sacrifice a tonne of stuff pretty easily. Part time salaried, ad-hoc teacher for local medical school, locum, extended access roles. The public campaign is far less important and was a complete waste of energy with the last set of "Strikes". Seriously though if you're a GP trainee and you don't follow the proper QIP methodology they can make you re-do the whole thing at ARCP, so even if it's a bad project you have to oversell all the QIP tools you used. Best advice I can give is to apply for the hospital that is going to be most convenient commute-wise or just where you get the best vibe. DOI: not a GP or GP trainee. Did anyone Would be weird striking outside GP practices as trainees Fucking lol, I am now picturing a modest picket outside a small rural GP practice consisting of exactly one FY2, who is often the only junior in the practice. If you’re interested in it, you can be more focused on trying to cut your appointment times down as you progress, ask to shadow/help with some duty doctor shifts, ask to do supported home visits if you have a practice that actually treat you as a supernumerary More likely to feel lonely - yes. Once you have worked a year as a provisionally registered doctor you are then able to locum and it gets even better. . QIP ideas - (GP training) Really struggle to find ideas that (a) meet the criteria, (b) common enough to complete quality improvement cycle, (c) won't require a crapload of effort when I'm trying to jump through other hoops. ADMIN MOD GP offers Northern Ireland . This winter is going to be rough. They don’t The theory behind physician associates is that they can relieve pressure on already overworked doctors by sharing some of the workload both in hospitals and GP practices. Or NSW’s junior doctors win $230m payout. You mention GP superpractices but the top only the 1% GP partners are on How much capital do you think your average junior doctor earning 40-70k in London is going to be able to For all those currently in GP and scrambling for an audit before ARCP, I've just done a really easy one in a couple of hours. They're pleased that you've chosen their speciality, especially as (until recently) it was quite undersubscribed. In addition, I've found the senior doctors generally kind and supportive. If I were you, I’d take the offer and commute for the 3 years, an hour is not so bad, especially in GP training where 18-24 months would be in GP surgeries: 9-5 or 8-6. Or check it out in the app stores I've got a place for GP in Round 2 in my ideal location, BMA Junior Doctors Committee will move to replace the term "junior doctor" with "resident doctor" GP MSRA results are out, but I'm still a bit indecisive about where to apply and what to put as first, second choice etc. Just have a few questions about GP training and areas. Also: a) Most of London isn't posh b) You'll be a GP - no once cares about where you completed your training As a GP, let me inform you I know of several surgeries where GP partners are not GPs let alone doctors. Any action as a result of the survey will be for the UK BMA Junior Doctors Committee to decide (elections to this Committee are currently open now) GPST1 here working at Pennine currently. I have been doing it for a few years. Dear ———- We are changing the way we work to help improve our services for you. 4. It appears that the University of Kent has been the way that the unit costs have been derived for 25 years and so is probably the original source of the claim. The true satisfaction and beauty of GP is in getting to know the patients and being "their" GP, but of course, that hasn't been a thing for years now. g-clinic days are supposed to end at 6pm, but I usually am out around 4. Locum GP. There are also some ph consultants/gp’s who do part gp, part ph. JDs in the UK are not even finishing their FY1 here and just migrate to Aus so you'll have There's nothing to say that you couldn't start IMT, switch to GP, hate it, retrain as a computer scientist then work as an analyst for Amazon, for example. I get this in theory but in practice I'm not finding it to be the case. I know the rads exams are super hard, and the GP trainee portfolio are time intensive. In terms of working in the nhs, I would say psychiatry. I was always very keen on GP throughout med school but now I'm leaving GP training at the end of this rotation and it can't come round fast enough. Be proud of who you are. Obs fine, cxr fine, mild wheeze and can definitely go home. Tell me you've never done a QIP in GP without telling me you've never done a QIP in GP. for quality of GP training. g. ' It brought to mind the famous Wittgenstein quote. £150K gross. using this as the reference . Welcome to the new subreddit for junior Irish doctors. Financially this may make more sense (but not necessarily, it can be hard to find long term Locum consultant posts I think). I had submitted my application to GP training before the deadline (01/12/20) and received an email on 03/12/20 saying I had not sent in my employment history and needed to email them it within the next 72 hours (I had misread this and thought they wanted my employment history prior to starting FY1 Locum GP Varies post to post, 100/h is often quoted. No one can predict what will happen with GP. You're a nurse who needs to be hand held and supervised, and gets double the time to do consultations. CREDIT: Yes option 1 is what I meant but that is not possible. 1st year aka interns aka house officers (HOs) start at 4k. GP, worked like a dog, treated worse than one. Pay bump to 5. So I’ve been looking at the (disappointingly) overwhelmingly negative responses to a “doctors strike” on Twitter, and a lot of the comments are informed by the overwhelming disrespect the public have developed for GPs. HK docs are guns, their medical schools and the doctors they Do you send them home to follow up with GP? Start something in A&E? Admit for diabetic review? The case I'm thinking of was a patient with asthma and mild symptoms suggesting CAP, already been seen by GP that day who gave antibiotics and steroids but patient hadn't started yet. No kids. That's another reason for having longer than 10min appointment slots - Ultimately a GP will out earn a hospital doctor by a significant margin and much earlier. I still think that many junior doctors and NHS consultants think our job is easy - but I can almost guarantee that no NHS consultant can do my workweek in the same way that I would not be able to do a week as a neurosurgeon with a couple of clinics and a couple of days chopping open spines and brains. Honestly I found reflections such a massive waste of time. Career What are the best regions for gp training, workload and training quality wise? I have seen some surveys on Get the Reddit app Scan this QR code to download the app now. Feel free to post and discuss all matters relating to being a junior doctor in training in Ireland. The theoretical minimum for a consultant is 7 years, and that's for Radiology. ( I personally know 5 friends who did so) Less than %20 of most training placements are filled by IMGs (except GP, IMT and psychiatry)* For doctors looking to move to New Zealand as well as highly mobile doctors in the UK who will now require more incentives to stay. I even know a surgery where their GP partner is the practice manger who is entirely nonclinical and has never seen a single patient. IMT currently and hoping to get into cardio. Does anyone know if there is a difference between areas / deaneries in the U. Band 2 in PD & 3 in clinical. Medical advice is not to be sought here. AMA but please read these The NHS needs more doctors, and this year saw a record number of applications from medical students to start junior doctor training. The moment consultants and reg rates are respected you can bet that the rates will trickle down to Use pass medicine and gp self test only I would spend no longer than 6-8 weeks max to revise 1-2 hours every day Compared to med school finals it’s not that hard Although core psych training would be local, higher psych could see me commuting 2+ hours each way to hospitals, and that was not for me, so I chose GP. The best work/life specialties IMO include pathology, neurophysiology, radiology, research physician, occupational medicine, GUM to name a few. 31 votes, 17 comments. I would like to go back perhaps in the future to finish GP but not sure if I would be allowed to re-apply. ST2–started on GP. (Unless competition ratios have drastically changed). I choose GP because I hate hospital medicine for one, and better work life balance with no night shifts, bleeps or having to do annoying things like cannulas and ABGs which I hate. Please remember that when the current crop of consultants were junior house officers, it was frowned upon to take any time Applied for ACCS / GP aug 2021 entry but thinking about having another year out as cba to be shafted Current F2 planning to pursue a career in GP for many reasons, potential financial benefits being one of them. *Or rather, I’m sure they’ll give you useful knowledge but you don’t need to spend thousands of pounds acquiring it, and you’ll be spending a lot of time learning far more than you’l need in general practice. And yes, before this news, we don’t get paid for weekends. 30-6 Monday to Friday with actual, scheduled education time, If you have completed training in any other specialty apart from GP, then you will firstly need to check if your training is approved by the Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons Canada. The NHS inherently is all about service provision, and from talking to my junior consultant and GP friends, it never ends, it just changes. Too many doctors erroneously diagnose idiopathic chronic fatigue and depression as ME when they are tired of their patient (an experience covered in great length in the comments), while the true sufferers of this disease are left undiagnosed due to doctors’ negligence and stubbornness to learn about me/cfs. 5 hrs. Or check it out in the app stores our new home is /r/doctorsUK ** A community for UK-based doctors to chat about their experiences, There’s just too many juniors and there will always be people to take the shifts at lower rates. While it may cost roughly this much to train a senior doctor, the cost to train someone until they become a junior doctor is much less. I did ask him a few times why he was doing this to himself, and his answer was that he 'liked the stability of having a regular workplace and being part of a team. You're right, it's hard to classify significant, but I think it's being important in one way, whether that means having a large company where you can influence people on a global scale, rather than just affecting a few patients here and there who are The issue with declining doctors pay led to a great Reddit movement which led to BMA upheaval Also extend GP training but make it 90% clinic based so they can get the Would be much better if junior doctors could get more involved in actual research projects like they do in USA where you are actually working towards some Looking for some advise and help with deciding where to move. Average GP partner earnings are between £100-120k in the UK. From what I gather, North Devon is a bit ropey with regards the hospital placements, and the GP training patch is pretty huge. I Even with a portfolio career the likelihood is that GP will form the majority of your work. From the junior doctors' handbook: Annual leave will now be stated in days, rather than weeks. GPVTS - 3 years, so if everything goes perfectly, you should be a fully qualified GP 5 years after graduating medical school. Not saying I haven’t met happy GPs, but it feels they number much less than rads. Shame there are not more options to combine areas of medicine particularly in such schemes as in to do public health you do need some link with communities which you get from GP. 'If a salaried GP lion could speak, we could not understand him. You might get a GPST as well I guess. Ex GP here. I’m coming up to the end of GP training now but will be starting Radiology soon. Average of about 8 sessions per week. No distinction is made between a hospital doctor and a gp we are all the same doctors in the publics eyes. However if you wanna work in private sector, I would say GP. Today I received an email about preferencing for GP rotations. Just a bit devastated and wondering if anyone has any advice on how to proceed. Would love others point of views. Or our new home is /r/doctorsUK ** A community for UK-based doctors to chat about their Specialty / Core Training Update regarding MSRA result for GP applications 2022. 10 minutes including notes, 300 times a week, with the full range of When I did my GP FY2 placement (5 years ago, so before the heavy workload of these days) it was expected that I discuss each patient with one of the GPs, same for GP registrars. The firms will have a list holding doctor and may include the following: a dedicated pharmacist, an advanced practitioner and a GP assistant. Nowhere else in any medical career do you get the variety of GP either of acute and chronic problems. In GP land you could theoretically leave at the end of the day without having said a single word to anyone apart from your patients. With night pay HOs can get 5k, MOs can get 6k. 47. Again, variable from very small single doctor practices to massive conglomerates. From the time of medical registration in Australia, all overseas trained doctors and foreign graduates of an accredited medical school must work for at least 10 years in a: Distribution Priority Area (DPA) if you're a general practitioner (GP) District of Workforce Shortage (DWS The GP practise I worked in had 1 GP (I watched my trainer) triage patients when he is oncall. I’ve been fully committed to the strikes and will continue to do so. I think that fully qualified, highly trained professional doctors from F1 to ST7/8 should not be called “junior doctors”. Some different roles such as A&E, triage, administration/Oncall to break up the relentless and draining f2f sessions. Have a good social life. 0X% if not 0. On the balance my my interactions with the trainees, GPs and consultants, the rads group seem much happier. Also: GPs aren't mid-levels, they're consultant level doctors working in primary care Most GP practices are owned and run by the GPs working in it. How hard is GP placements are expanding, with more GP training spent in GP itself rather than hospital specialties, so trainers will be in high demand in the next few years. Terms & Policies ProudCompany7777 Doctor and weasel ** This subreddit is now closed to new submissions - our new home is /r/doctorsUK ** A community for UK-based doctors to chat about their experiences, share articles and hang out. One of my options is Bournemouth but I've never worked or lived there. Consultant and Reg rates are always escalated quicker than junior rates because they are just fewer of them and they are senior decision makers. So very hard to predict exact numbers. if medicine, then getting used to seeing patients with common acute medical issues and initiating appropriate management and referrals, or if surgically minded then to get used to competently managing common issues surgical patients can experience such as infections and electrolyte disturbances. fesexnzj fqochz wrtho yxaa zrcmx indn rdgnut swnr ovka lroylg